"Well, crying isn't gonna bring your dog back . . . unless your tears smell like dog food. So you can either sit there crying and eating can after can of dog food until your tears smell enough like dog food to make your dog come back or you can go out there and find your dog."

- Homer J. Simpson
Lost: He's Our You

I won't be able to watch the show when it airs, so I won't be live-blogging it. But please use this thread to discuss the episode.

The episode title is one of the most intriguing I've seen from Lost.

Also - if any of the Thinklings want to jump on this post and live-blog the show, or even write your thoughts on the episode after viewing it, please feel free.



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Comments on "Lost: He's Our You":
1. Bill - 03/25/2009 9:22 pm CDT

Due to a quite unfortunate DVR problem, I only got to see the last 20 minutes of the show. Argh!

I think they show it online at abc.com. Hopefully I'll be able to see what I missed.

What I saw looked pretty good.

So, what about all that "you can't change the past" stuff? And what does this mean for our boy Ben?

2. Evan - 03/25/2009 11:04 pm CDT

Sadly, I don't think you missed much, although I did like seeing 'Larry' of Newhart fame. The whole episode was filler to me, and the worst of the season thus far.

The shooting of young Ben was a surprise, but I don't think it ultimately means much. One of three things is likely to happen:
1) Young Ben is not dead and will be saved by some doctor (i.e. Jack or Juliet) on the island. Jack would repeat the life saving surgury he performed on Ben in 2004. Juliet would add meaning to the stalker crush adult Ben later has on Juliet.
2) Young Ben is not dead by some miraculous island circumstance or healing (ala Locke after he was shot by Ben) reinforcing that major theme that major events in time can't be changed that would create paradoxes, or will somehow result in alternative timeline corrections (Charlie, you're gonna die brother).
3) Young Ben really is most sincerely dead, in which case, it will violate nearly every time travel paradox rule the writers have seemed to reinforce up until now.

I think 1 or 2 is extremely likely, which means the shooting is ultimately only for temporary shock value and maybe to explain some future event/conflict between Ben & Sayid. I think option 3 is highly unlikely, and if they went there, I don't see how it wouldn't ruin the show.

3. Shrode - 03/25/2009 11:48 pm CDT

Evan's right.

Ben can't be dead. But I want to know why old ben never showed recognition or prior knowledge of Sayid.

4. Shrode - 03/25/2009 11:49 pm CDT

I liked the theme developments in this episode. Sayid being willing to do what others aren't.

It's kind of like how some describe our soldiers. They go do the rough stuff, we can't on our behalf.

5. jen - 03/26/2009 7:58 am CDT

Ben is not dead. And I think that Ben's seeming lack of recognition of the Losties when he was an adult had to have been feigned. He knew exactly who they were - even Juliet when she came to the island.

6. Jared - 03/26/2009 8:13 am CDT

Well, he had that list too, right? When the select Losties were brought to the dock way back whenever, wasn't it the exact ones who are in the past now?

Well, besides Jin and Hurley, I guess.

I'm confused.
I really hope they know how to wrap up all the loose ends and don't just conveniently forget about stuff.

7. Bill - 03/26/2009 9:25 pm CDT

I'm not confused, for some reason. To me every episode is just another piece of the puzzle coming together. Maybe I'm deluding myself though.

A lot of what I thought were the weaker plot points in earlier seasons now make sense. Like "Why are they building a runway!?!?" - I thought Lost was jumping the shark but instead they were just awesomely setting up an extremely intriguing story.

I vote that Ben remembers them from his childhood. He feigned not knowing them, which is completely in his character. One of the most disturbing and intriguing characters on TV.

"Sadly, I don't think you missed much, although I did like seeing 'Larry' of Newhart fame. The whole episode was filler to me, and the worst of the season thus far."


I have to disagree. I just watched the whole thing on abc.com and I thought it was brilliant.

Plus it was a Sayid episode, which is always good. It might not have been the best ep of the season, but it's an excellent season so far and I don't think any of the episodes have been weak.

8. Michele - 03/27/2009 12:00 am CDT

I liked it very much, too.
Sayid did a great acting job. He has a heart-wrenching, subtley tragic face. However, I don't like when he makes out with people. I feel like he's going to kill them. Seriously, it never works out.
Did it bug anyone else that it's supposed to be really heavy that Juliet and Sawyer are together to Kate? She slept with him a few times, but were they ever really a "couple"? It seems like they were really trying to play that up. I feel the writers are trying to stir the audience to sympathize with Kate, (I noted they showed her carrying people to safety in the fire, although there was no reason they couldn't walk) and nothing so far is doing it for me.
I'm liking how Sawyer seems loyal to Juliet--so far not a "Freckles" or even deep eye-contact has been taken place.
Also, did you see a distinct Chicken-theme, or was it just me? It seems repeating poultry has been done before, what's up with that? Chicken killing, eggs on the stove, and a chicken sandwhich, a mere coincidence? I think not. And didn't that chicken flatten out big-time once Sayid strangled it? Man, did he just squeeze all the air out of it as well?
No way is Ben dead, no suh. I must say his outfit was super dorky in Moscow. It looked like a Zorro costume or something.

9. Quaid - 03/27/2009 12:08 am CDT

My wife called it last week when she said that she thought Sayid would try to kill Ben. (I think I repeated that theory on the comments, but I don't remember for certain)

Evan's Theory #1 won't fly in my book - no surgery here. At least, if they perform surgery, he won't live because of that. How could you explain a trained assassin not being able to fatally wound someone at point blank range when there is no scuffle or movement. If there weren't supernatural forces at play, Mini-B would be a goner.

BUT - we all know he's alive. If it would have removed Ben from the future or whatever, serious white flashes and stuff would have happened. What's crazy to think about is that old Ben from Season Three knows that Sayid tried to kill him when he was mini-B. All of that torture time in the cell and Ben knew what was going to happen in Sayid's future.

So my guess is that Sayid gets picked up by the Hostiles, leaving the Lostaways to figure out Horace and the gang on their own.

It appears that we'll stick with Jack and the gang next week. When do you think we'll get back to gangsta-Sun, Living Locke and the new losties?

10. Quaid - 03/27/2009 12:09 am CDT

Also - I really enjoyed this show and I wouldn't rank this ep with the lower ones of the season.

11. GinH - 03/27/2009 8:18 am CDT

I thought this ep was great but is anyone else uncomfortable with what Sawyer did this week? And is anyone else running through their heads the possibility that one of the losties might be Jacob?

12. GinH - 03/27/2009 8:19 am CDT

I thought this ep was great but is anyone else uncomfortable with what Sawyer did this week? And is anyone else running through their heads the possibility that one of the losties might be Jacob?

13. Quaid - 03/27/2009 8:45 am CDT

What specifically are you referring to regarding Sawyer? Are you talking about voting to kill Sayid??? Nothing major jumped out at me.

I don't really think that one of the Losties is Jacob - that would be strange. Assuming it's a guy, it could only be:
Faraday, Jin, Miles, Jack, Sawyer, Sayid or Hurley - those are the only back-to-the-futures that we have available.

I just think it's too weird that it could be Jack or Sawyer or something and I think that Miles/Faraday are too minor to make that leap. That would be quite the loop, though.

14. Bill - 03/27/2009 9:00 am CDT

Faraday's just strange enough to become Jacob, but I dunno.

The worst thing Sawyer did was he tazed Sayid right in his, um, secret place.

That was uncalled for!

But, yes, I think Sawyer did his best.

My prediction: Sawyer dressed Jack down last week. This week showed some cracks in Sawyer's armor as a leader. My guess is the writers are going to give Jack some leader-redemption coming soon.

I still think Jack is going to save little Ben's life. Jin is going to come to, see Ben, bring him in, and Jack will perform emergency surgery (not sure how Sawyer will explain making a doctor a janitor, though). There is large potential for lots of moral anguish, suspicion on the part of the Radzinskys of the DI, etc. Should be fun.

15. GinH - 03/27/2009 10:17 am CDT

Sawyer sat by and watched Larry cram something in Sayid's mouth to prep him for torture. I was a little disappointed in that (insert gut wrench here as I think of my Sayid in pain)I know it just ended up being some kind of truth drug but Sawyer didn't know that. It couldve been some excruciating drug that wouldve killed him for all Sawyer knew. Hence my disappointment.

16. Bill - 03/27/2009 12:36 pm CDT

GinH,

I got the sense that Sawyer knew what Oldstead (was that his name?) did and knew it was just a truth serum thing. Sawyer is chief of security, so surely he knew the role and modus operendi of his main interrogator.

17. Quaid - 03/27/2009 10:37 pm CDT

His name was Oldham and I think that Sawyer knew what the stuff was, too. For him to know that Oldham is "our you" is to know a good deal of his methods. Given Horace's trepidation with whether or not to kill him later on in the ep, I don't think that Sayid was in any true danger. I think Oldham was like Sayid in that his job was to get people to talk, not necessarily torture them.

Well - I looked at the blurb for next week's show and it's already proved some of us right/wrong. I'll say this, though, I think it might be a Kate episode.

18. Bill - 03/27/2009 11:09 pm CDT

Well - I looked at the blurb for next week's show and it's already proved some of us right/wrong. I'll say this, though, I think it might be a Kate episode.

AAAAAAAHHHH!!!

I need to be a bit more explicit in my "NO FORWARD SPOILERS" rule.

At least let us know before posting. A little warning please.

That being said, they are trying to redeem Kate (having her save people from a burning building).

If Sawyer goes back to Kate, I'm going to lose it. She is dead to me.

Juliet, on the other hand, is the bees knees. She's the equivalent of first-season Jack, in female form.

19. Quaid - 03/28/2009 2:56 pm CDT

Whoooooooa,

No spoiler - the Kate thing is a guess based on the TV Guide info. It might not be the case.

Still - I'll be careful down the road basing guesses on info that not everyone has in front of them. I apologize!

20. Alan K. Henderson - 04/01/2009 12:12 am CDT

I still want to know why Widmore and Ben want the island. There's cool mysterious forces there, but for what purpose do they so desperately seek to control those forces? There's only one season left after this one, and we don't have even one hint! What in the heckity heck do they want to do with the island's power???

21. Bill - 04/01/2009 6:52 am CDT

I think we have a few hints. People (at least non-redshirts) seem to be able to miraculously recover from deadly wounds. You can jump around in times, etc.

I think it might have something to do with the secret of immortality/fountain of youth or something.

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